Carly’s just come out of a long term writing contract and wants another. Kelly wants to do more speaking. How are they going to achieve these goals? By putting themselves out there. (As opposed to waiting around for people to come knocking on their door.)

In this episode the girls discuss the things that hold us back from putting ourselves out there and why being Australian often makes things hard in this respect. They then share about the times that putting themselves out there has paid big dividends and throw out a challenge to listeners to do the same.


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